Technology Advisory Board Meeting Minutes - June 18, 2021

Attendance

• Graeme Rocher – Micronaut Foundation, co-founder and Director; Oracle, Architect
• James Kleeh – Object Computing, Micronaut Development Lead
• Ken Sipe – Mesosphere, Cloud Solutions Architect
• Neal Ford – ThoughtWorks, Director, Cloud Architect
• Venkat Subramaniam – Agile Developer Inc., Founder
• Yuriy Artamonov – JetBrains, Microservices Fellow
• Guillaume LaForge – Google, Developer Advocate for Google Cloud Platform
• Bruno Borges – Microsoft, Principal Product Manager for Java

Board Members Not In Attendance

• Jeff Scott Brown – Micronaut Foundation, Co-Founder and Director; Micronaut Practice Lead at Object Computing
• Zhamak Dehghani – ThoughtWorks, Principal Consultant

Others In Attendance

• Jen Wiese – Object Computing, OSS Community Engagement Manager, Meeting Scribe

Meeting led by

• James Kleeh

Agenda

• Welcome (JK)
• Foundation Updates (JW)
  • New TAB Member
• Upcoming Community Events (JW)
• Tech Talk (JK)
  • Roadmap Review
  • Breaking Changes in Transitive Dependencies
  • Perspectives on Live Development-Time Reloading
• Foundation-Hosted Projects (JW)
• Open Discussion (All)

Welcome

• Welcome all attendees
• Agenda review

Foundation Updates

New TAB Member

• Please welcome new attendee, Bruno Borges, Principal Product Manager for Java at Microsoft

Upcoming Community Events

• Reminder that the Foundation sponsors events, including educational webinars and workshops, focusing on the Micronaut framework and related technologies

Tech Talk

Roadmap Review

• VS Code Extension
  • Graeme will send a how-to example and is interested in tooling feedback
• JMS, Pulsar
  • Both started by the community
  • JMS is further along
  • We will have full releases out in the near future
• In Progress
  • Micronaut Data Document DB
  • CDI
    • Not supporting full CDI – CDI lite
  • AWS X-Ray
• Some Progress
  • Bean Import
    • Beans at compile time
  • Scala

Breaking Changes in Transitive Dependencies

• Neal:
  • Consider what is a higher priority: stability or flexibility
• Venkat:
  • Technologists can’t prepare for unanticipated changes
  • Focus should be on clarity, consistency, meeting expectations
• Yuriy:
  • Option: Make more BOMs and manage releases separately
  • Generally leaning towards stability
• James:
  • Polling the group
• Neal:
  • Stability
• Venkat:
  • On the fence; just needs to know the expectations
• Guillaume:
  • Leaning more towards stability
• Yuriy:
  • No opinion
• Jen:
  • Consider polling the community via Twitter poll

Community members are encouraged to contribute their thoughts to TAB on this, as we need to make final decision.

Perspectives on Live Development-Time Reloading

• Guillaume:
  • Starts super fast already, so not in a hurry to have it
• Yuriy:
  • Important from a marketing perspective
• James:
  • Only downside to current solution is loss of in-memory data and re-execution of startup logic; the cost of implementing classloader-based reloading does not offset the benefit
• Graeme:
  • Wouldn’t use the feature because it doesn’t fit his workflow

Community members are encouraged to contribute their thoughts to TAB on this, as we need to make final decision.

Foundation-Hosted Projects

• Sean Gilligan (SupernautFX)
  • Didn’t get to this topic; there was too much tech talk and we were already over time.
  • Moved to next meeting agenda

Open Discussion

• Meeting minutes to be published on micronaut.io
• Thank you to everyone who attended. Your participation and time is very much appreciated.